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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Oct 23, 2008 7:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The defense rested 4 days ago for the record

Oh, yes sir! Indeed I am "getting it."

I've criticized many Democrats on these posts about a million times. Want me to do it again to prove I'm not just touting the "party line"? Here goes:

Gore had no one but himself to blame for losing to Bush in 2000. If he had spent 5 minutes campaigning in his own home state of TN, Florida would have been a footnote. I've had screaming fights w/Democrats who blamed me for voting for Nader in 2000 and somehow "costing Gore the election" (even tho' I don't live in Fla.) I fought back and called them whiners, which they were.

I never once made a post about Carter, so why do you keep bringing him up? I also think his comments about "Israeli apartheid" in regards to Palestinians are appalling and ridiculous.

You want to link Obama to terrorism b/c of your fear of Rev. Wright? Try this on for size: Sarah Palin's HUSBAND joined an Alaska secessionist movement whose leader said this: "The flames of hell cannot compare with the hatred I have for America. When I die I refuse to buried under the American flag." (True to his word, he was buried in Canada). Funny how it's such a scandal that Obama's Reverend says "Goddam America" and that's cause for outrage, but when the HUSBAND of the woman who would be VP joins a movement whose leader said those things, it's no big deal. Who's the hypocrite again?

Finally...I responded directly to what you had to say--and always pull out of your hat--about Lincoln, and you have nothing to say in response b/c you know you're wrong.

Trying to justify today's pathetic GOP with Lincoln as a Republican is just so ridiculous for the reasons I stated in the last post, and I don't need to repeat them. You consistently mock Democrats and make sarcastic comments about people who would vote for Obama (and as I've stated before, he is not my "savior" or even my first choice; only far better a choice than mccain/palin) then get all defensive when we fight back.

Oh, and how charitable to admit that Bush was a joke b/c he spoke funny and McCain is "old." Jeezus, if those were the actual problems I had w/either of those guys I wouldn't have a leg to stand on. Bush's policies over the past 8 years--and do i REALLY have to list them for you again? are what I object to, not the fact that he's an idiot who says things like "The children is our future" and is a national embarrassment due to the way he speaks.

AGAIN....my post had to do w/the fact that you consistently and wrongly point to Lincoln as an example of TODAY's Republican party being somehow more noble or competent that the Dems...NOT Carter, or even Obama....but you go off on that track because you don't like being proven wrong.

and AGAIN, if you need to hear from several hardworking, VERY American, red white and blue, country-first cops and firemen who despise Giuliani beyond words, I will happily let them know your thoughts on how he would make a great president.

Now respond with some completely irrelevant comment about Obama, Tim McVegh, and socialism. I can hardly wait.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 23, 2008 7:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random political thoughts

Hey GC; to the degree Reagan gets WAY too much credit (Soviets finished themselves off way before the cowboy arrived; his tax plans were repealed immediately BUT the deregulation ethos stuck; he really blew it with Lebanon, Central American and the Iranians), I think that Carter suffers unduely. I do agree that some of the stuff coming out of his mouth of late is astounding, but having lived thru it, the 70s, he did some things right on the economy that saw the turn around that came in the 80s as a result...

None of my biz, but I do think that you guys are handling yourselves in a civil and relatively intelligent fashion in these little interactions (at least I hope you aren't all too bent out of shape by it)...I enjoy reading them now and again.

Not sure why I got involved here--lost my train of thought; I will say that as far as the "bad guys" of the world coming to get us, I think that the Saddams and the Khadfis are/were the least of our worries. Tyrants of those sorts have too much to deal with on the local front...and, I would also say Israel can take care of herself. On the other hand, anyone that can discuss Nyquist Frequency coherently, and tries this hard probably has something to offer...

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Oct 23, 2008 8:02am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random political thoughts

always appreciate your thoughtful comments, WT....as well as your suggestions for late 60's Dead!

I'll try to re-asses some of my feelings about Carter. I think he may have meant well (and was certainly hurt by the hostage debacle in 1979) but I really was disappointed with his recent comments essentially blaming Israel for everything wrong w/the Palestinian conflict.

Suicide bombers and never-ending rocket attacks into N.Israel by Hezbollah continue to affect the situation there, and Carter seems to downplay that.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Oct 23, 2008 8:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random political thoughts

Absofuckinlutely! Carter today should be gagged whenever the Mideast comes up...what a looney tunes...just sorta liked him in the late 70s but after Nixon and Ford, how could I not?

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Poster: NoiseCollector Date: Oct 23, 2008 8:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random political thoughts

He loved jelly beans and carter loved peanuts, it's cut and dry.

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Poster: veblen Date: Oct 23, 2008 8:06am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random political thoughts

I just have never been able to believe the georgia jc after he witnessed the six foot rabbit while fishing...that was just too much...and even if you do see a six foot rabbit, you don't tell it to newsweek...or really, anyone for that matter...

but if you lived through the 70's and you hear the energy cries of today you just sit and wonder: "didn't we go through this once..."

hopefully we get it right the second time and it doesn't take a third...

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Poster: NoiseCollector Date: Oct 23, 2008 8:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Random political thoughts

Well bush destroyed wallstreet to drive oil down to below $80 a barrel so we can ignore it and concentrate on the medical insurance pandemic and joe the fucking plumber instead.